Ice, Pyramids & Polar Conundrums: A Dave & Steve Joint Rambling
It’s 6 a.m. in Dave’s garage‑office. Outside: Oregon drizzle. Inside: two laptops, a stack of declassified U‑2 aerial photos, and exactly one working space‑heater. Steve is on Zoom from Vermont—Victorian study, cat on lap. The morning’s agenda: Is there—or was there ever—a giant stone pyramid lurking under the geographic North Pole?
Opening statements
Dave: “Wake up, people—Antarctica gets all the pyramid buzz, but the Arctic is the real frozen cover‑up.”
I’ve got three pillars of suspicion, Steve:
- Satellite‑oddities: SAR (synthetic aperture radar) returns from 2014 show a symmetrical tetrahedral anomaly about 12 km under the ice sheet. That’s not your grandmother’s basalt outcrop.
- Ancient cartography: Mercator’s 16th‑century polar map depicts a “Rupes Nigra” mountain at 90°N. What if that ‘rock’ was a weather‑worn capstone? Where did that intel come from?
- Global power lines: The so‑called ley‑line grid intersects the pole at a node consistent with Giza’s longitude offset when you factor precession. (Yes, I did the maths.)
Steve: “Dave, you magnificent iceberg‑chaser—let’s pump the glycol brakes.”
Here’s why I rate the odds at ≈ 5 %:
- Glacial turnover: The polar ice sheet is sea ice, not land ice. Below it? Water >4,000 m deep. A limestone pyramid doesn’t float, last I checked.
- Tectonic context: The Lomonosov Ridge is volcanic/igneous. Carving and hauling 2‑million‑ton blocks across open Arctic water c. 10,000 BCE strains every known civilisation timeline.
- Occam’s Arctic Razor: Radar “symmetry” + human pattern‑seeking = pareidolia 101. Show me seismic reflection data—then we’ll talk.
Rapid‑fire round
Dave: What about isostatic rebound exposing land during the Younger Dryas?
Steve: Shorelines move, but the geoid stays wet at the pole. You’d need a mini‑continent, not rebound.
Dave: Admiral Byrd’s 1947 flight log—redacted pages at latitude 90° N…
Steve: Byrd flew Antarctic, not Arctic. Plus, fabrication city.
Dave: Nanodiamond layers in Greenland ice core GISP2 = cosmic impact. Could’ve melted a land‑ice cap revealing pyramid, later refrozen.
Steve: Cool paper—impact layer ≈ 12,900 YBP, yes. Still water below, friend.
Common ground & what it would take to convince us
| Requirement | Dave’s angle | Steve’s baseline |
|---|---|---|
| Seismic tomography | Crowd‑fund a private icebreaker, drop nodes, prove density contrast matching dressed stone. | Agreed—but peer‑review the modelling, publish raw data. |
| Core samples | Vibracore drill into anomaly, look for worked granite, tool marks. | Must include uncontaminated controls; chain of custody public. |
| Historic corroboration | Re‑examine Norse sagas & Chinese cartography for polar land references. | Sure—plus linguistic analysis to rule out metaphor. |
| Remote sensing | Use NASA‑OPERA & CryoSat‑2 radar altimetry with machine‑learning shape detection. | Share algorithms open‑source; avoid confirmation bias. |
Bottom line: Dave says probability 60 % after proper inquiry; Steve sits at 5 % but loves the hunt.
Dave: “When we’re proven right, I’m claiming naming rights—‘Morrison Monolith.’”
Steve: “You can have the naming rights if I get first crack at the museum curation. Deal?”
Reader challenge
We’re handing the ice‑axe to you: explore the sources, weigh the logistics, and tell us if Dave’s “Arctic Giza” holds water—or is sunk by it.
Quick reference links
- NOAA bathymetric maps of the Arctic Basin.
- Mercator’s Septentrionalium Terrarum Descriptio (1595) full scan.
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